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Postby sleeperNY » Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:32 pm

Chet was always trying different things back in the early days.Chet and Ray Butts came up with the split (stereo) pickup back in the mid 50's. Sound effects were top on his list back then although he didn't use anything way out there.

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Postby Veenture » Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:34 pm

sleeperNY wrote:Chet was always trying different things back in the early days.Chet and Ray Butts came up with the split (stereo) pickup back in the mid 50's. Sound effects were top on his list back then although he didn't use anything way out there.

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You may be right Jim and it may even be possible that The Ventures (i.e. Nokie Edwards) followed after Chet's first use of the fuzz box because after all, consider that the lads are known to have followed Chet's example* before! ;)

* for the benefit of those who don't know, The Ventures' successful career started after they had covered Chet's arrangement of composer Johnny Smith's WALK, DON'T RUN from the elpee "High-Fi In Focus" in a simlified but very appealing way.

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Postby Strat-o-rama » Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:36 am

Good point, Paul. No question that Chet and Lester were major influences on The Ventures. Wonder what fuzz Chet would have used? I thought the first one to be marketed was the Maestro, from Gibson, and it was designed to allow guitar players to similate the sound of a saxophone.

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Postby Veenture » Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:55 am

Interesting what you say Trent, I didn't know about the saxophone simulation but at any rate that fuzz sound on the Ann-Margaret video sounds VERY much like the fuzz tone I hear on The Ventures' albums. The guitar signal doesn't get ruined beyond recognition by a modulation overkill. I guess that must be one reason for the "Fuzzrite" (or Gibson, or Red Rhodes)tone having become such a big hit. ;)

BTW that fuzz tone on THE GUESS WHO's "No Time" number in the video Denisthe Menace so kindly posted only recently is of similar quality...and absolutely fabulous.

Here it is again...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqeSUAlI ... ture=email ...so nice, gonna give it another spin :shock:

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Postby sleeperNY » Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:32 pm

Some fuzz sounds back in the early days of electric guitar weren't always meant to be there. There was a song out buy a Spanish/Wester singer by the name of Marty Robins that had fuzz out back many years ago. I will have to do a little looking but I think it was called "Don't Worry About Me". The song has fuzz in the guitar part that wasn't supposed to be there. There was a problem with the Tube board they were using and it was the way it came out. They liked the sound so it was left in the song.

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Re: .....and Kicking and Slicing Up Speakers Don't Count

Postby Veenture » Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:03 pm

sleeperNY wrote:Some fuzz sounds back in the early days of electric guitar weren't always meant to be there. ..//... There was a problem with the Tube board they were using and it was the way it came out. They liked the sound so it was left in the song. Jim
Interestingly, similar thing happened with a Ventures recording when electronic "phase shifting" accidentally appeared on an acetate recording of Psyched Out in 1967. Someone liked it enough to have it refined and the song was renamed Flights Of Fantasy . It was welcomed with enthusiasm by fans, including me of course :D


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