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Re: tremolo arm

Postby brunob » Mon May 18, 2009 11:23 am

gonna tell him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thanx Bruno :twisted: :evil: :twisted:

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Re: tremolo arm

Postby Chemo » Tue May 19, 2009 2:56 am

brunob wrote:the screw itself under the arm is moving in the hole in the arm,there's a factory fail


Man, you seem to have more than your share of bad luck with that guitar. In my Ranger the screw was a little bit too loose, when I got the guitar. I just removed the strings, tightened the screw a bit and that was it. Didn't even need that blue Locktite (which is great stuff, by the way: I use it for Schaller strap locks).

Hope you get it fixed!
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Re: tremolo arm

Postby Brian » Thu May 21, 2009 7:49 pm

Yeah, I don't think that solder is gonna do anything but make you make when the arm falls off. You can always cut the head off the screw and just fix it into the hole with J-B Weld... I've seen people do some pretty wild stuff on cars with it, cracked engine blocks, etc... It'll hold the screw in place for sure.

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Re: tremolo arm

Postby Veenture » Fri May 22, 2009 1:31 am

Bruno, I would try to seek a solution without soldering and not doing a 'definite fix' (cannot be undone). Don't forget, the washer (leather?) will wear with use anyway, so you will have to be able to make adjustments on a continual basis. Just my thoughts.
My Hallmark shares the same common 'loose arm' thing with Mosrite. A self-locking nut configuration might have been a better choice when the trem arm was designed but perhaps they weren't around then. (Fender Strats with trem arms don’t have this problem when the little coil spring that comes with it is in place in the screw shaft for the trem arm).

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Re: tremolo arm

Postby gplayer » Fri May 22, 2009 2:54 am

I used the blue Loctite on my Hallmark. So far it's holding fine. But, I'm not heavy on the whammy, either.

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Re: tremolo arm

Postby dubtrub » Fri May 22, 2009 7:47 am

Sixteen post down on this very same page we discussed this topic. loose arm
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Re: tremolo arm

Postby brunob » Mon May 25, 2009 12:38 pm

I saw the other post 4 the "loose arm" ,but tthat's so much different from the old ones and the "clones"...
I have been not lucky with this guitar,but trying to fix it as it's possible,the craftsman said it's almost done...but how long do the arm stay stand???
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Re: tremolo arm

Postby Veenture » Mon May 25, 2009 1:14 pm

Hey Bruno (and anyone else with loose arm woes), here's what I did today in trying to solve the "loose arm" problem with my Hallmark. (Incidentally, this proves to show how true the H60C is to the Mosrite heritage!) :shock:

Now the factory-applied Locktite on my H60C's trem arm had lost it's grip and had become ineffective (I detected remains a bluish resin that had been applied on the screw head).
The secret lies not in how tight you turn the screw (with every risk of stripping the thread!) but in preventing it from turning itself loose by using other means.
Yes Locktite helps...for a while, depending on your style of tremarm (ab) use.

Here's what I did: Took some of my teflon tape (plumber's tape) which is ever so thin and stretchable (if that's a good word), wound it a few times on the thread of the screw and fit it back on again. The srew's thread is nice and snug in the arm now and I have a hunch it will last for quite some time...
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Re: tremolo arm

Postby Veenture » Thu May 28, 2009 6:30 pm

My try-out fix with the teflon tape didn't work out, so we can scrap the teflon tape! :cry: I'll have to revert to the Lockrite ...er, ...I mean LOCKTITE (!) remedy again. I'll have to order some.

In the meantime, I changed the factory-installed bolt with a longer one (about 2 mm longer) to partly compensate for the thickness of a rubber washer I added (placing it under the original thin red-brown factory-mounted washer). I also changed the metal split washer for a rubbery type washer (same thickness) that I cut from a piece of clear rubber tubing I happen to have. The replacement bolt sits tighter than the shorter original one which didn't reach the bottom of the shaft and so stayed ‘floating’ when fully tightened.

The longer bolt just reaches the bottom of the shaft now, so that it will jam itself tight when it is screwed all the way down. When trying this out yourself, please be careful with the screwdriver –you’ll not want to risk ruining the thread in the shaft on the trem arm, so gently does it!

Getting just the right amount of play in the arm though, is a matter of personal preference and of trial and error getting it there. So far so good but we’ll see how it goes…
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