Staggered string holes

[Dennisthe Menace]

Mosriteforever posted:

.....it is interesting how the hole placement in the rocker sort of mirrors the bridge saddle placement on the bridge
when the bridge is properly intonated. Maybe that is where the stay tuned vibrato originated.

I have heard this in the past as well, and it might seem plausible to a certain point.

[Veenture]

Some where there has to be a correct answer...........There will be a test on Friday

...shudder...man, it must be about 48 years ago since I heard the last of one of my Highschool teachers uttering those most dreaded words

[mark1]

Some where there has to be a correct answer...........There will be a test on Friday

...shudder...man, it must be about 48 years ago since I heard the last of one of my Highschool teachers uttering those most dreaded words

There also could be a pop quiz during the week

[zarfnober]

FWIW, and I've posted this before, Loretta told me that Semie staggered the holes to keep it in tune and, the fix for it not working prior to this came to him in a dream. I agree that the saddles when properly intonated match the holes, which is probably the light that went off in his head for doing this. Also, I believe each pickup pole piece height when "tuned" or adjusted properly, has the same "stagger".

Now plenty of other vibratos will stay in tune when returned to static position but, will they bend in tune? Go ahead and try it if you have a Bigsby or other style vibrato equipped guitar. You will notice a difference.

Personally, I think the Vibramute/Mosley vibrato sounds better than any other.

Rocco

[jtr654]

Microfret and Steinburger are 2 other guitar maker that tried to make the chord stay in tune when the trem was depressed.I remember that the Mosrite did stay pretty well in tune as did he Microfret madel never played a Steinburger though.

[Veenture]

Microfret and Steinburger are 2 other guitar maker that tried to make the chord stay in tune when the trem was depressed.

I suppose one successful way of keeping a chord in tune while depressing the trem would have to be some kind of a system of pulleys and levers…not very practical on a guitar so we may well have to wait for the arrival of the digital guitar for that.
Being an 'analogue type' man myself, I won’t be doing any inventing soon, so if any of you whiz kids here want to start a new million dollar business?!... ...

[dorkrockrecords]

If you don't mind a headless instrument there is no need for innovation beyond the Steinberger TransTrem. Not only do all the strings stay in tune while the trem is in use, but it allows for wholesale transposition of all six strings with a single knob.

[Veenture]

I don't like 'em headless, but nonetheless it is time for me to check out the Steinberger TransTrem...because I'm very interested and curious as to how it works. Thanks Adam.

[mosriteer]

In my opinion, the staggering helps the chords sound right when the whammy is used on a whole chord. On a Gretsch 6120 with a Bigsby, if you depress the whammy and hit a chord its sounds strange, but the same thing on a Mosrite will sound more better (relative string frequencies are preserved). There is a physics based explanation as well, but I will not get into it
(has to do with keeping the square root of the tension divided by mass per unit length stay at the same relative fraction of the original values in the non-depressed position. Sorry, I am wearing my Professor's/Engineer's hat here)
-Kanad

[dorkrockrecords]

On a Gretsch 6120 with a Bigsby, if you depress the whammy and hit a chord its sounds strange, but the same thing on a Mosrite will sound more better...

Professor must not teach English.