Help needed: bridge position (1990 partsrite project)

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Help needed: bridge position (1990 partsrite project)

Postby maxkat » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:10 am

Hi Mosrite friends,

I could need some help finding the right position of the bridge at my 1990 partsrite Mosrite Ramones or Gospel Victory III…

I know about scale length and stuff, but how did Semie position the bridge? Did he put the middle of the bridge to the end of the scale or has he done it the "correct" way and put the middle of the saddles in maximum front position to the end of the scale?

I've attached two photos that show the two possible positions.

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Could someone who owns an original 1988-1990 Mosrite (V88, M88, Ventures Reissue, Nokie, Ramones, Gospel Victory, if possible with the "modern" bridge) please measure how this actually is done, i.e. where the 312mm (half of the scale length) from the 12th fret to the bridge end?

Thanks a lot,
cheers,
Max

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Re: Help needed: bridge position (1990 partsrite project)

Postby olrocknroller » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:25 am

Hi Max. I'm no authority on Mosrite, so will only say that when positioning a bridge, I use the second method because it maximizes the range of settings for the saddles. The first method is interesting though, and may be useful if the treble E string intonates in that position...then you have even more range to use in intonating the heavier strings.

I'm looking forward to an authoritative answer on this!
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Re: Help needed: bridge position (1990 partsrite project)

Postby MWaldorf » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:15 am

Max,
On my '66 the bridge is in the second position, with the posts at the nominal scale length (24.75")
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Re: Help needed: bridge position (1990 partsrite project)

Postby panther » Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:18 pm

HUM, seems like I mentioned adding 1/8" to the double 12fret measurement, and because Ed Roman said it, it was poo pood. I've always been told always listen to someone talking about a subject, even if you don't like them, or already are good at the topic being discussed. You may learn something you didn't know.
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Re: Help needed: bridge position (1990 partsrite project)

Postby MWaldorf » Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:53 pm

MWaldorf wrote:Max,
On my '66 the bridge is in the second position, with the posts at the nominal scale length (24.75")
Mel


Oops, I meant the first picture, not the second. Need more coffee.
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Re: Help needed: bridge position (1990 partsrite project)

Postby TerryTNM » Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:59 am

I've never had a string intonate at a length shorter than the scale length but still give the first saddle a bit of clearance just so it doesn't look maxed out and also spreads the 'down pressure' more evenly over the bridge posts. So I use a modified 2nd picture method. I would say that it's quite possible to run out of adjusting space on the first photo, especially if the action is high.

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Re: Help needed: bridge position (1990 partsrite project)

Postby oigun » Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:16 am

You can also use the stewmac fretposition calculator this will give bridge positions too.
http://www.stewmac.com/freeinfo/Frettin ... tcalc.html

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Re: Help needed: bridge position (1990 partsrite project)

Postby sleeperNY » Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:49 am

When I put my partsrite together I set it up like image 1. I didn't have enough room to intonate the 6th string so I had to plug all the holes and move the bridge back about 1/8" to get it to intonate correctly.

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Re: Help needed: bridge position (1990 partsrite project)

Postby panther » Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:38 am

Jim;
That's exactly how I do it. Measure and add 1/8". That puts everything pretty much center for adjustment either forwards or backwards.
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Re: Help needed: bridge position (1990 partsrite project)

Postby maxkat » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:41 am

Thanks for your answers so far... still looking for the way Semie did it on his 1988-1990 guitars.

I have two Mosrites whose neck and body belong together
- at my 1965 Ventures II the calculated scale length ends as in my second picture (at least if it had roller saddles)
- at my 1968 Celebrity the bridge is positioned as in the first pic (and even 3mm closer to the neck).

Doubtless: the second way is the better if not the correct way because, as Terry said, a string won't intonate at a length shorter than the scale length – but I'm looking for the way Semie did it on his late guitars...

Thanks in advance,
Max


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