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Re: Ventures II pickup anatomized

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:17 am
by JimPage
Super interesting! I bet those segmented magnets are the same ones that Bob Shade has several bricks of.

That isn't at all how I visualized the inside of that pickup. SInce my 1972 Celebrity III has no pole pieces, I guess that's what in my pickups.

Is this forum fascinating or WHAT?!?!?!?!?

--Jim

Re: Ventures II pickup anatomized

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:20 am
by Sarah93003
JimPage wrote:Super interesting! I bet those segmented magnets are the same ones that Bob Shade has several bricks of.

That isn't at all how I visualized the inside of that pickup. SInce my 1972 Celebrity III has no pole pieces, I guess that's what in my pickups.

Is this forum fascinating or WHAT?!?!?!?!?

--Jim



I know! Such cool stuff. Seriously though, the information I read here surpasses any other forum I've belonged to.

Re: Ventures II pickup anatomized

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:48 am
by maxkat
REALLY interesting would be a dismantled Ventures II slab body pickup or somebody knowing it's construction or resistance – my guess is it's the same like the no polepieces Ventures II/Celebrity pickups with less windings or only one magnet inside the bobbin, but who knows, perhaps they are remainders of another manufacturer... There must be a reason why they are narrower and sound different (and have been cheaper, then)...
Cheers, Max

Re: Ventures II pickup anatomized

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:15 am
by olrocknroller
Pickups have always been a fascinating part of guitars for me. I've taken a few dead ones apart, just to see what makes them "tick" but after watching this forum, I just might have to break down and build a pickup winder... Anybody got a chunk of hours they can spare me? I always have too little day left at the end of all the fun things I want to get done! ;)

Re: Ventures II pickup anatomized

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:25 am
by dubtrub
olrocknroller wrote:I just might have to break down and build a pickup winder...

This would be a great topic for the forum. I would love to see a chronicle on building a winder or at least a detailed narrative on one. Especially the counter. Hey oigun! ;)

Re: Ventures II pickup anatomized

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:30 am
by Mr. Bill
First off, Max, thank you for these photos. They're a great look into the guts of another version of the Mosrite pickup. Perhaps before you are done, you can post dimensions of all the parts.

Dub: Building a simple winder from scratch is pretty easy, I've built two. For the counter, I ended up using a surplus workout stair stepper machine counter that used a reed switch and a magnet. The first one I built 30 years ago, with the help of my father-in-law, who was a machinist. He could make all of the right pieces that I couldn't find. The second one I built was a gift for a friend that wanted to wind some pickups. It was built from commonly available hardware store stuff and a motor and speed controller bought on-line.

Re: Ventures II pickup anatomized

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:54 am
by dubtrub
Now someone just needs to post instructions and photos on how assemble it all and to make work.

Back in the mid 60s my brother build a pickup winder with a sewing machine motor and an odometer from a car speedometer. I've read online about various counters being used for a homemade winder but without photos and an a detailed 'how to' I simply can't figure it out.

Re: Ventures II pickup anatomized

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:57 am
by maxkat
Hi Olrocknroller and Danny,

I guess you won't need more than a sewing machine, even the pros seem to rely on them...:
http://fillmore-mosrite.jp/blog/74image_08.jpg (sorry, embedding the picture doesn't work.)
(This and more pictures can be found here: http://fillmore-mosrite.jp/blog/2010/09/30/1459.html)

The counter can be done with a reed switch and an old hand calculator, or with a mechanic counter attached to the sewing foot like Dana Moseley gets her windings counted. A great video on how to do a pickup yourself can be found here:



Cheers, Max

Re: Ventures II pickup anatomized

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:57 am
by panther
maxkat wrote:Found my compass: north-pole is UP.


Can you post a photo with the compass, so we can have an idea of what we will see. Or are you pulling our chain ?
Dan

Re: Ventures II pickup anatomized

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:04 am
by vetovideo
Max .... what a GREAT instructional video! Even a dope like me can follow!!! Thanks!