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What a shame.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:48 am
by Brian
I hate when I see stuff like this. . . sold for "best offer" in the first auction:

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Mosrite-Ma ... 7675.l2557

Then completely torn apart to be parted out by the new owner:

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1971-MO ... 589c07f946

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE-MO ... 27cfa4d371

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE-MO ... 27cfa4e386

etc. . .

Re: What a shame.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:28 pm
by mosman
That is truly heartbreaking stuff.

Re: What a shame.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:59 pm
by BRRanger
Agreed. I guess they try to get the winner to bid higher on the original parts in able to get the most money, essentially forcing the winner of the carcass to bid against a higher amount of bidders for the individual parts. Had to do the same recently when I won a D-100 body/neck.

Re: What a shame.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:04 pm
by sleeperNY
That person has been doing that for a long time. It is a shame.

Jim

Re: What a shame.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:39 pm
by loud3tone
Very sad. Strippers are a plague in the vintage drum world--demand for parts for restorations makes less than collectible-grade drums vulnerable to parting out, because strippers can sell the parts for much more than the whole drums would fetch. All perfectly legal, but over time the result is a shrinkage in the number of intact vintage instruments for players. With vintage drums there is high emphasis on the "collectable-grade" drum, so drums that show some road wear go for significantly less money; this creates the economic incentive for stripping. As a newbie to the Mosrite marketplace I'm surprised that a nicely road-worn Mark I, even a '71, would be worth more in parts than intact, but it looks like that's the case...

On the Rogers Drum Forum there's a thread devoted to tracking drum strippers and raising awareness about them so that sellers can avoid selling to buyers whose practices they don't agree with.

Re: What a shame.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:07 pm
by MWaldorf
Sad indeed. My guess is that the body and hardware get mated to a Ventures labelled neck.

Re: What a shame.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:23 pm
by Brian
MWaldorf wrote:Sad indeed. My guess is that the body and hardware get mated to a Ventures labelled neck.


I'm sure you're right. . . I'm not that much of a fan of the later models with the bigger heads, but I hate seeing anything that made it so many years intact, get blow apart like that.

Re: What a shame.

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:41 pm
by Dennisthe Menace
Well guys, look who the new seller is....nobody other than 'Good Ol' Hankeroo'....... :roll:

Re: What a shame.

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:10 pm
by GTSP
Could one argue that by stripping an oldie like this one, while sad for that instrument, can also resurrect an instrument that was unplayable until that particular part was found? So maybe it's not ALL bad....just about 75% bad.

Just a thought. :geek:

Re: What a shame.

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:40 pm
by Nokie
In the case of the 50th Anniversary 2004 production Fender '54 Masterbuilt Stratocaster, many are parted out because it is one of the few places where the owner of an original '54 can get the rounded pickup covers with the correct plastic, the pickups with pole pieces with the correct width, mini-skirt knobs with the correct plastic and other parts. Yes, Fender sells a '54 pickup set but it doesn't have the correct width pole pieces so they are not the best for replacement in an original '54 Strat. With that in mind, the 2004 models are shrinking in number and could rise in value.
I would say the same about the parting out of Mosrites BUT if original Ventures Model Mosrites are being rejuvinated from post Ventures Model parts, then it seems it will increase the number of the original Ventures Model's and decrease the number of the post Ventures era models. That could decrease the value of an original Ventures Model but I think we'd have to see it happen on a larger scale than it is now.
-Marty