NEW UNCOVERED EARLY VENTURE MODEL WITH ORIG. GUITAR STRAP

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Postby EF@MosriteRecords » Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:18 am

Thanks BobK for the feed back. I knew when Numbers came up we would see opinions
on Numbers. There are many Serial #'s never used. If we are talking about the years
1963-64 and include VENTURES MODEL'S only, there are the 75-80. I will go with what
Semie had told me over my lifetime. Andy has confirmed this many times. Yes Semie
made many Ventures style bodied guitars with a side jack and did not have VENTURES
on headstock. Semie built me several Ventures Models (Sunburst) in the 80's
and built them exactly as he did in 1963-64. They were Bound, Vibramute, Roller Bridge, Set Neck, VENTURES on Headstock etc. The whole thing. Yes they were made when they maybe shouldn't have. But the point I am making he may have done this for other close friends. This Guitar I unearthed is #0216. But believe me there are not 200 plus
Ventures Models made in the Set Neck, Bound configuration between 1963 & 1964 . If we accepted that you would have to say Semie or Andy have not been any where near accurate. To me that's not going to fly. I have seen and had access to records and files that maybe only a hand full of folks have ever had access to. And yes I have seen the fact from the records Andy has and what Semie told me that there were only about 25 of the 1959 Joe Maphis Model Bound, Real Vibramute, Early Bridge, End Jack Etc. I understand that most of you have never had the access to really dig in to old information from the Founders. While I was working for Andy from Feb-Dec. 2008. I was able to spend
more time listing to Andy about Mosrite History and seeing near completed and never completed instruments. I am very close to completing a original 1959 Joe Maphis Model that has been laying around for 50 years never completed and never sold of course. Yes we have all the correct hardware for it. As you may know I was able to find the original parts and complete the Original Gene Moles Guitar in late 2008, and played it on several venues before it was sold. Price. Several times what the Guitar I found market value. I am not at liberty to give a exact dollar amount. But I would bet it would amaze you. The top price paid for a single neck MOSRITE has passed 25K. 10-20 years ago collectors
would never consider what these things are going for today. NOTICE that on Gene's
guitar, it has a Rim Jack and Top Body Jack. Gene had Semie do that to run two outputs
from the Guitar. The top Jack was added.

To make a point I was aware of Serial Number problems and a system that was not a system and Blanks occurred all over the place. I have seen over my lifetime Serial
number #0003 Lowest I've seen and #0216 Highest FOR A VENTURE MODEL, the one I just found. I am sure I am going to hear from a lot of you. Ain't this Fun. That God for the FORUM
Luv ya all
Elaine

P.S. I will leave you with a picture of myself the last gig I did with the GENE MOLES
Guitar before it was sold. It's a piece of HISTORY Ladies & Gentlemen.
I hope I spelled correctly I have eyesight impairment.
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Postby Sarah93003 » Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:33 pm

That is one slick looking guitar! Thanks for sharing the pictures and stories Elaine. These are great!! :mrgreen:
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Postby EF@MosriteRecords » Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:56 pm

Also in response to BobK The fact this has 7 pick guard screws and not 3. Again Andy gave
me a answer I really already knew. HEY guys these are hand made there is no big production line. Semie and Andy used Materials at hand. If there was a pick guard
rough cut or whatever they would use it. Small things can be covered. Material waste
was not a option, they used what they had on hand. We can no way pigeon hole one guitar
and say they are all going be be the same. The fact I have a 7 screw and Joe somebody
has a 3 screw. It is just the way it was. When my guitar was put together they had
a pick guard that had been drilled with 7 screw mount and Andy used it. No problem.
Joe Somebody's 3 screw may be worth more or less than a 7 screw in like condition is
crazy. I have a picture of one of these early VENTURE Models with 5 screws. There is no
way one of us would pass up a 5-6-7 etc screw knowing that the pick guard is original. That just is not valid. Of course we would love to have it.

Here is a little picture of me with my 1st JM-65. The lady in picture for those
that don't know is Susan Raye. A treasure in Country Music. It was a blessing
that we had the opportunity to work together. She had hit after hit on CAPITOL
Records. LA International Airport, Pitty Patter Patter, My Heart Has A Mind Of It's Own,
Willy Jones etc.

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Postby EF@MosriteRecords » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:33 pm

Hey all. For those that asked on PM. I will post the city that Steve purchased the 1963
Ventures from and through. It was NorthLand Music just outside of Jennings, Missouri.
Luv & Merry Christmas

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Postby Brian » Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:07 am

Very cool, thanks for sharing!

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Postby Strat-o-rama » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:38 am

Elaine,
Your posts continue to amaze me.
I often wonder what the weight is like on these early set-neck bound Ventures/Mark 1 guitars. I know Dennis' '63 is very light. Are they typically in the 7 to 8 lb range, or more typically in the 9 lb plus range?

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Postby tcwjr » Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:05 am

Hey Elaine my name is Tommy Williams I have met you before at Sam Ash in Rivergate,I live in Hendersonville.I have a Hallmark Custom 60 and wondered what you thought of them? Also how many Mosrites do you have?

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Postby Sarah93003 » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:40 am

EF@MosriteRecords wrote:Also in response to BobK The fact this has 7 pick guard screws and not 3. Again Andy gave
me a answer I really already knew. HEY guys these are hand made there is no big production line. Semie and Andy used Materials at hand. If there was a pick guard
rough cut or whatever they would use it. Small things can be covered. Material waste
was not a option, they used what they had on hand. We can no way pigeon hole one guitar
and say they are all going be be the same. The fact I have a 7 screw and Joe somebody
has a 3 screw. It is just the way it was. When my guitar was put together they had
a pick guard that had been drilled with 7 screw mount and Andy used it. No problem.
Joe Somebody's 3 screw may be worth more or less than a 7 screw in like condition is
crazy. I have a picture of one of these early VENTURE Models with 5 screws. There is no
way one of us would pass up a 5-6-7 etc screw knowing that the pick guard is original. That just is not valid. Of course we would love to have it.


Elaine



I totally agree. I think it's important to recognize not only the dedication that went into producing the guitars that Semie loved but the difficulty and struggles involved to make it happen. Afterall, he could have thrown in the towel and had a nice paying job with any major guitar manufacturer. But then, we wouldn't have all of these gems that surface from time to time. I enjoy learning of each new little nuance that makes another unique example of Mosrite history.
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Postby Desert Surfer » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:12 am

Hi, Elaine: The gentleman "Steve" you refer to, could he be Steve Erickson? Steve has a nice Mosrite Nokie prototype which was hand made by Semie one year before his passing. If so, please say Hi to Steve for me. If not, never mind. Thanks.


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