JOE MAPHIS MODEL REVISIT JACK PLATE OR NO JACK PLATE

[EF@MosriteRecords]

Have you ever worked on something and knew there was a item of interest
and just plain forget it just hours later. Well in a thread somewhere was the topic
of Jack PLates. On the thread I wrote on the Joe Maphis, Pre-Ventures Model. There
is something that would seem no big deal, but then again how many of these were
made. Records and Andy seem to think around 25+. If anyone out there has a
Joe Maphis Model some call a 59. Look at your Plug-in and see if there is a Jack Plate.
Semie would sell as he built guitars. Logic could say that this guitar might be at the end of this model production 60-61-82-63? or maybe the last one sprayed. As pictured notice there is no Jack Plate just a Washer and Round Knurled Nut. Let me know what you all find. The photo is a large as I can keep in focus.

Elaine

[EF@MosriteRecords]

Made one more stab at a Bigger image.
Elaine

[jfine]

Cool guitar, and cool pics! Please keep 'em coming! From other posts on this forum, I get the impression that Semie had trouble with jackplates breaking on those early models. Mounting the jack directly into the wood would be one solution to that problem, as would using thicker laminated plastic for the plates. Having had the same problem on several Les Pauls back in the '70's, I can sympathize--my long-term fix was to replace the plastic jackplate with a metal one, but I remember having to improvise one out of cardboard and the pieces of the old plate in order to make it through a gig one night!

[connie_mack]

i had a conversation with a guitar guy about the mosrite jacks. the bound ventures models had side jacks, as did this maphis model, yet the rest seem to have mostly pick guard jacks. the guitar guy thought that many people didn't like the side jack because it interfered with playing while sitting. i just thought it was less labor intensive to put it on the pick guard.

any thoughts on that topic elaine?

[EF@MosriteRecords]

I really don't know why Semie happened to use a Jack without a Plate. I have owned and own guitars with and without from this period. The only thought here is to locate
as many of the so called by some as the 59 Joe Maphis pre-Venture model and simply
observe how many do and how many don't.

EF

[dubtrub]

These are photo's from forum member Bob K's collection.

This is a '59 sidejack Joe Maphis model which is basically the same guitar Elaine displays above. It does not have the plate for the jack. Also notice that the neck is horizontal with the body with no downward angel, hence necessitating the sunken vibrato in order to get the bridge down far enough to accommodate the string height above the fretboard. It sports the clear plastic Guild control knobs.


This is a '63 Sidejack Ventures model with the flip mute vibrato and has the added jack plate. By 1963 Semei was using the black platic Guild control knobs.


If you go to his web site and view his entire collection you will see that virtually all the '63 models have the jack plate.
http://photos.rlkimages.com/thumbnails.php?album=14

And here's my exact replica of forum member Damon 67's '63 Joe Maphis model doubleneck thrown in just because I like looking at it.
Damon's guitar can be viewed here. http://web.mac.com/damon67/Guitars/Mosrite.html

[MWaldorf]

Heck, Danny, any excuse to post pics of your double neck is aok by me!

Regarding the Maphis models, interesting that the control knobs aren't in the same place on Bob's and Elaine's guitars. It also looks like the sidejacks are in different locations. I wonder if there was a trend, with, say the earlier guitars having the jack further up the side of the guitar (towards the neck) and the laters ones having it towards the tail or if it was haphazard from guitar to guitar.