Hallmark Inquiries

[Veenture]

Very nice sound, Paul - you guys play well together. Are you using an outboard reverb at all on those songs?
Dennis

Thanks Dennis, no, no reverb at all. We use a Yamaha "Magicstomp" that has been programmed with some specially designed user patches besides the factory preset patches. These user patches offer a whole range of echo modes found on many a vintage tape echo machine like Meazzi, Vox Longtom, Echomatic, Roland RE-301 etc. I find that most settings on the stompbox do not mask the sound of my Hallmark; she shines through nicely!

[Bob Shade]

Hey Guy's! Am going to be in LA next week, anyone playing out anywhere?

Bob

[fishyfish235]

Hey guys, I know I made this topic to ask a couple of questions about the Hallmark 60 Custom. However, I recently read about the Kurokumo Mosrites, particularly the Excellent '65 Mosrites. How do these two guitars compare in accuracy to a American Mosrite?

[jtr654]

I own a Hallmark Custom 60 and prefer it to the Original Mosrites I've owned.

[Nokie]

Hey guys, I know I made this topic to ask a couple of questions about the Hallmark 60 Custom. However, I recently read about the Kurokumo Mosrites, particularly the Excellent '65 Mosrites. How do these two guitars compare in accuracy to a American Mosrite?

I own and have owned 60's model Mosrites as well as the Kurokumo Mosrites (Excellent, 64 and 65 Super Customs, and the 63' Royal). The Kurokumos are modern in their construction. They're obviously much more machine made and have that kind of precision. The tolerances are tighter (i.e. the pieces fit together better). For that reason, the Kurokumo's are a better more reliable guitar. I particularly like the Excellent for it's light weight. Most original '60's Ventures Model Mosrites I've played are heavy.

The Kurokumo's don't have the mojo of an original. They don't have the imperfections that bring the charm of an original. I have compared the sound of originals with Kurokomo's as closely as I think I could. Both plugged into the same channel of a Fender twin, with two of us taking a strum at the same chord and comparing the same picked notes. They sound remarkably alike in those tests. I could hear no difference in tone or output.

The Kurokumo's have the same narrow neck and low frets. The "Excellent" stamp is a departure but after that and the fact that their "hat knobs" don't have the numbers, they get the details purdy close.

-Marty

-Marty

[fishyfish235]

I'm sorry to bump this topic again, but I just felt the need to ask something.

On the Hallmark Guitars 60 Custom page, it says that the neck width at the nut is 1 5/8". It also says the Scale Length is 24 3/4"

I compared these two specs to Danny's specs in the Mosrite Projects forum. The 60 Custom's neck width at the nut is 1.625" while Danny's specs are 1.673". What's up with this? Are the hallmark necks really thinner than actual Mosrites?

Also, I am deeply concerned with the length. The scale length is 24 3/4" (according to the 60 Custom page on the Hallmark website) but on Danny's specs it is 28 1/8" in Overall Length Am I missing something here? Is the scale length different from the overall length?

Also, yes I am aware that Danny's specs are based off of 1966 Mosrites, but I don't know if that makes a difference. And, are there any other measurement differences that exist?

[JimPage]

fishyfish235 asked:
>>The 60 Custom's neck width at the nut is 1.625" while Danny's specs are 1.673".
>>What's up with this? . . . The scale length is 24 3/4" (according to the 60 Custom
>>page on the Hallmark website) but on Danny's specs it is 28 1/8" . . .

I usually avoid discussions like this; if numbers made that big a difference, John Holmes would have been president, not Ronald Reagan.

Anyway, no regular guitar's scale length is over 28 inches. That is approaching short-scale bass scale length.

I measured my Hallmark 60 Custom to see if that might be the length of the entire neck, and got a bass-side measurement of 26-3/4". That isn't scale length; that includes the headstock.

I also measured the bass side of my '72 Mostrite Celebrity's neck, and got 25-3/4", but the Celeb does NOT have the angled neck that the H60C or other style Mosrites do. Again; that is not the scale length; it includes the headstock.

So, does that help at all? Probably not!!!

Sorry--

--Jim

[fishyfish235]

Oh, whoops. I realize my error now. Forgive me

When it said "Scale Length" somehow I got the idea that it meant the length of the entire guitar or something like that. Looks like I got my terminology wrong again

[Strat-o-rama]

Fishyfish,
The Hallmark 60 Custom scale length is the same as a standard "The Ventures" model Mosrite. Where it differs on the fretboard is at the nut, having a 1 and five eight nut width. This is the same as a typical Fender (a B neck). The original and Japanese Mosrites have a narrower nut width (1 and 9/16" ). Some players do not like this, finding it to feel too skinny. Other players have no probem with it. Hallmark "modernized" the design by going to the much more popular Fender-style fretboard dimensions. Also, the Hallmark frets are taller than the Mosrite "Speed Frets", which are very low to the fretboard. Super low frets are something some players like, and others find a hinderance. It's all a matter of preference and what you like in an electric guitar neck. The original Mosrites do take some "getting used to". The Hallmark cuts the difference between a Fender and an original Mosrite, retaining a fast feel with low action and slim neck profile(the thickness of the neck), with the original scale length.
Hope this helps.

[fishyfish235]

Fishyfish,
The Hallmark 60 Custom scale length is the same as a standard "The Ventures" model Mosrite. Where it differs on the fretboard is at the nut, having a 1 and five eight nut width. This is the same as a typical Fender (a B neck). The original and Japanese Mosrites have a narrower nut width (1 and 9/16" ). Some players do not like this, finding it to feel too skinny. Other players have no probem with it. Hallmark "modernized" the design by going to the much more popular Fender-style fretboard dimensions. Also, the Hallmark frets are taller than the Mosrite "Speed Frets", which are very low to the fretboard. Super low frets are something some players like, and others find a hinderance. It's all a matter of preference and what you like in an electric guitar neck. The original Mosrites do take some "getting used to". The Hallmark cuts the difference between a Fender and an original Mosrite, retaining a fast feel with low action and slim neck profile(the thickness of the neck), with the original scale length.
Hope this helps.

Yeah that helps, thank you.

You are reading the information wrong. 28 1/8" overall length refers to the length of the neck not the scale.
As for the neck width, you are comparing a Hallmark to a Mosrite. They are entirely two different guitars. Also those measurements refer to narrow not thin. Neck width is describe as wide or narrow, a side profile refers to thickness or thin.

Yeah, I understand now. Thank you. So, it was just the way I was reading things that were wrong Silly me

EDIT: Huh Where did Danny's post go?